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	<description>Miss Beth's Educational Site on the Evil of Islam//Main Site: Miss Beth's Victory Dance</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation by Speculation About Selectivity &#171; Freedom Ain&#8217;t Free &#38; Take Our Country Back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speculation About Selectivity &#171; Freedom Ain&#8217;t Free &#38; Take Our Country Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with in this previous blog post:  Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation.  I will quote one relevant citation from that post. Lets consult  Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir concerning [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with in this previous blog post:  Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation.  I will quote one relevant citation from that post. Lets consult  Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir concerning [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter to by reformislam</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/open-letter-to/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>reformislam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Many people talk about the need to reform Islam. Now you can stop talking and start helping.&lt;/b&gt;

With the help of our readers we went through the Koran and removed every verse that we believe did not come from Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. However, it is possible that we missed something, and we could use your help. If you find verses in the &lt;a href="http://www.reformislam.org/koran.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;reformed version of the Koran&lt;/a&gt; that promote violence, divisiveness, religious or gender superiority, bigotry, or discrimination, please let us know the number of the verse and the reason why it should be removed. Please email your suggestions to koran-AT-reformislam.org.

When we finish editing process, we would like to publish Reform Koran in as many languages as possible. If you could help with translation or distribution of the Reform Koran, please email us at koran-AT-reformislam.org. If you could provide financial support, please visit our support page.

&lt;a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2007/12/horror-under-hijab.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;In Memoriam of Aqsa Parvez.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.reformislam.org/reform.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.reformislam.org/reform.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Many people talk about the need to reform Islam. Now you can stop talking and start helping.</b></p>
<p>With the help of our readers we went through the Koran and removed every verse that we believe did not come from Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. However, it is possible that we missed something, and we could use your help. If you find verses in the <a href="http://www.reformislam.org/koran.php" rel="nofollow">reformed version of the Koran</a> that promote violence, divisiveness, religious or gender superiority, bigotry, or discrimination, please let us know the number of the verse and the reason why it should be removed. Please email your suggestions to koran-AT-reformislam.org.</p>
<p>When we finish editing process, we would like to publish Reform Koran in as many languages as possible. If you could help with translation or distribution of the Reform Koran, please email us at koran-AT-reformislam.org. If you could provide financial support, please visit our support page.</p>
<p><a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2007/12/horror-under-hijab.html" rel="nofollow">In Memoriam of Aqsa Parvez.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.reformislam.org/reform.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.reformislam.org/reform.php</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth vs Fact-Part 136 by dsolo</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/myth-vs-fact-129/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>dsolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Snooper. Sadly, No...lunatics and lap dogs can't see what's in front of their own eyes.

Lunatics see what they take to be in front of their eyes but s-a-d-l-y-n-o exhibit no common sense, that is, the gift of seeing what's in front of the other person's eyes.
Common sense is a skill so s-a-d-l-y-n-o uncommon by the lunatic fringe.

Utterly lunatic sohailahmedkhan; "See, here in the United States, we have something called Freedom of Speech that works both ways–I don’t have to listen to your shit."

LOL.

Correct. And that also means we don't have to listen to your fucking bullshit either. Crawl back to your cave scumbag. Circle your cauldron of despair and chant to allah maybe he'll grant you early release from your conundrum.....maybe take a hit on that hash pipe too...it'll sooth your pain dickweed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Snooper. Sadly, No&#8230;lunatics and lap dogs can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s in front of their own eyes.</p>
<p>Lunatics see what they take to be in front of their eyes but s-a-d-l-y-n-o exhibit no common sense, that is, the gift of seeing what&#8217;s in front of the other person&#8217;s eyes.<br />
Common sense is a skill so s-a-d-l-y-n-o uncommon by the lunatic fringe.</p>
<p>Utterly lunatic sohailahmedkhan; &#8220;See, here in the United States, we have something called Freedom of Speech that works both ways–I don’t have to listen to your shit.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>Correct. And that also means we don&#8217;t have to listen to your fucking bullshit either. Crawl back to your cave scumbag. Circle your cauldron of despair and chant to allah maybe he&#8217;ll grant you early release from your conundrum&#8230;..maybe take a hit on that hash pipe too&#8230;it&#8217;ll sooth your pain dickweed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation by dajjal</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/cherry-picking-selective-quotation-a-false-accusation/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>dajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>foshizz, I was too hasty in my previous response and missed some important questions. 

What’s your ultimate point? 
   Islam is intrinsically evil; a real &#38; present danger and constant threat of violence; an intolerable predator upon the human race.

Aren’t all Holy books violent? 
 
   I have not read Hindu or Buddhist scriptures, so I can not answer the broader question. As for Islam &#38; Christianity, my previous answer stands.   

They were written in much different times; surely this temporal disconnect accounts for their rather egregious graphic depictions, no? 

   In my opinion, the graphic depictions of violence are a result of the Barbarian tribal culture of the Middle East. The problem is that Islam institutionalized and perpetuates Barbarism. Judaism reformed; Christianity severed its statist umbilical chord. Islam, by nature, can not follow suit.

Is it your wish that Muslims change religion, change their Holy book, or….what?

  Islam can not change the Qur'an and remain Islam. Reform, however desirable, is impossible, both Qur'an &#38; Hadith expressly forbid it. That leaves two possibilities: conversion &#38; apostasy. I'd prefer to see the Muslims throw off Allah's yoke of slavery and convert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>foshizz, I was too hasty in my previous response and missed some important questions. </p>
<p>What’s your ultimate point?<br />
   Islam is intrinsically evil; a real &amp; present danger and constant threat of violence; an intolerable predator upon the human race.</p>
<p>Aren’t all Holy books violent? </p>
<p>   I have not read Hindu or Buddhist scriptures, so I can not answer the broader question. As for Islam &amp; Christianity, my previous answer stands.   </p>
<p>They were written in much different times; surely this temporal disconnect accounts for their rather egregious graphic depictions, no? </p>
<p>   In my opinion, the graphic depictions of violence are a result of the Barbarian tribal culture of the Middle East. The problem is that Islam institutionalized and perpetuates Barbarism. Judaism reformed; Christianity severed its statist umbilical chord. Islam, by nature, can not follow suit.</p>
<p>Is it your wish that Muslims change religion, change their Holy book, or….what?</p>
<p>  Islam can not change the Qur&#8217;an and remain Islam. Reform, however desirable, is impossible, both Qur&#8217;an &amp; Hadith expressly forbid it. That leaves two possibilities: conversion &amp; apostasy. I&#8217;d prefer to see the Muslims throw off Allah&#8217;s yoke of slavery and convert.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation by dajjal</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/cherry-picking-selective-quotation-a-false-accusation/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>dajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>foshizz, Islam's scripture is unique in that it explicitly sanctifies and mandates world conquest, terror &#38; genocide. Jesus Christ neither sanctified, preached nor practiced those evisl; Moe did. That's the difference. Christianity was co-opted by kings &#38; emperors; Islam was created as a tool for empire building. 

In the article published above, I disassembled and disproved the opposition's false claim of cherry picking. If you have some relevant, verifiable evidence of error of fact or logic in that article, why don't you present it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>foshizz, Islam&#8217;s scripture is unique in that it explicitly sanctifies and mandates world conquest, terror &amp; genocide. Jesus Christ neither sanctified, preached nor practiced those evisl; Moe did. That&#8217;s the difference. Christianity was co-opted by kings &amp; emperors; Islam was created as a tool for empire building. </p>
<p>In the article published above, I disassembled and disproved the opposition&#8217;s false claim of cherry picking. If you have some relevant, verifiable evidence of error of fact or logic in that article, why don&#8217;t you present it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation by Miss Beth</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/cherry-picking-selective-quotation-a-false-accusation/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ask a fair question.

Ultimately, the point is to educate people into the true agenda of islam, regardless of the current propaganda about it being a religion of peace.

No, the koran and Holy Bible were written roughly the same situational time period; one is based on love, one on violence. Both were oral traditions until being committed to writing.

Further, there is no distinction between "old" and "new" in the koran, with no overriding message of hope as there is the Holy Bible.

Yes, Christianity did have its violent period--no one with even an ounce of intellectual integrity would deny that.  However, Christianity has matured and grown up.  islam hasn't--it still follows the same dictates as it has since the beginning with its stated purpose world domination through shari'a law. That has been demonstrated repeatedly throughout the past 29 years, at least against the United States and European countries. islam is completely indiscriminate in its violence and no one with any common sense would state Christianity advocates strapping a bomb vest on their child and blowing it up.

I realize there are many, many people who practice islam who claim to be moderate; however, I question their awareness--are they truly unaware of the complete passages of the koran and what they are exhorted to do? If they are not aware, then it's incumbent upon them to undertake learning that knowledge. If they are aware of the full implications, and they continue to participate in this belief, then they are complicit in its atrocities as well.

This does put them in a catch-22 position, however, that position being they are complicit through their knowledge and yet if they speak out, they become "infidel" with a price on their heads. I have come to think this is why we don't hear more outcry from the "moderate" muslims.

Ultimately, islam is the very epitome of the culture of death and people need to be aware of this. I have asked repeatedly for someone to show me these passages of "love" and exhortations of peace--to date, no one has. I can only conclude they don't exist.

No other group at this time is demanding the kind of accommodation and appeasement this group is, either, from the MN airport taxi drivers and Target workers to the demands for special footbaths, prayer rooms, cafeterias, bathrooms, etc. at our major, taxpayer funded universities. If this is truly a religion (and I don't believe it is), then the same standards should apply to these "believers" as apply to those of Judeo-Christian beliefs, rather than being funded by your and my tax dollars.

The numerous, well documented ties to terrorist organizations cannot be disputed either.  You don't see Christianity calling for the annihilation of Israel or the United States.

Ultimately, the purpose is arming through education.  People, at least here in the United States, have a birthright to choose how they worship.  However, those that choose islam should be fully apprised of that which they are choosing.  Look where the recruitment comes from, look around.  Open your eyes and see the small incremental appeasements.  Is that what you really want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ask a fair question.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the point is to educate people into the true agenda of islam, regardless of the current propaganda about it being a religion of peace.</p>
<p>No, the koran and Holy Bible were written roughly the same situational time period; one is based on love, one on violence. Both were oral traditions until being committed to writing.</p>
<p>Further, there is no distinction between &#8220;old&#8221; and &#8220;new&#8221; in the koran, with no overriding message of hope as there is the Holy Bible.</p>
<p>Yes, Christianity did have its violent period&#8211;no one with even an ounce of intellectual integrity would deny that.  However, Christianity has matured and grown up.  islam hasn&#8217;t&#8211;it still follows the same dictates as it has since the beginning with its stated purpose world domination through shari&#8217;a law. That has been demonstrated repeatedly throughout the past 29 years, at least against the United States and European countries. islam is completely indiscriminate in its violence and no one with any common sense would state Christianity advocates strapping a bomb vest on their child and blowing it up.</p>
<p>I realize there are many, many people who practice islam who claim to be moderate; however, I question their awareness&#8211;are they truly unaware of the complete passages of the koran and what they are exhorted to do? If they are not aware, then it&#8217;s incumbent upon them to undertake learning that knowledge. If they are aware of the full implications, and they continue to participate in this belief, then they are complicit in its atrocities as well.</p>
<p>This does put them in a catch-22 position, however, that position being they are complicit through their knowledge and yet if they speak out, they become &#8220;infidel&#8221; with a price on their heads. I have come to think this is why we don&#8217;t hear more outcry from the &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslims.</p>
<p>Ultimately, islam is the very epitome of the culture of death and people need to be aware of this. I have asked repeatedly for someone to show me these passages of &#8220;love&#8221; and exhortations of peace&#8211;to date, no one has. I can only conclude they don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>No other group at this time is demanding the kind of accommodation and appeasement this group is, either, from the MN airport taxi drivers and Target workers to the demands for special footbaths, prayer rooms, cafeterias, bathrooms, etc. at our major, taxpayer funded universities. If this is truly a religion (and I don&#8217;t believe it is), then the same standards should apply to these &#8220;believers&#8221; as apply to those of Judeo-Christian beliefs, rather than being funded by your and my tax dollars.</p>
<p>The numerous, well documented ties to terrorist organizations cannot be disputed either.  You don&#8217;t see Christianity calling for the annihilation of Israel or the United States.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the purpose is arming through education.  People, at least here in the United States, have a birthright to choose how they worship.  However, those that choose islam should be fully apprised of that which they are choosing.  Look where the recruitment comes from, look around.  Open your eyes and see the small incremental appeasements.  Is that what you really want?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cherry Picking: Selective Quotation; A False Accusation by foshizz</title>
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		<dc:creator>foshizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's your ultimate point?  Aren't all Holy books violent?  They were written in much different times; surely this temporal disconnect accounts for their rather egregious graphic depictions, no?

Is it your wish that Muslims change religion, change their Holy book, or....what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your ultimate point?  Aren&#8217;t all Holy books violent?  They were written in much different times; surely this temporal disconnect accounts for their rather egregious graphic depictions, no?</p>
<p>Is it your wish that Muslims change religion, change their Holy book, or&#8230;.what?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Intolerant, Hateful Bigot!! How Dare You Criticize Muslims? by dajjal</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/intolerant-hateful-bigot-how-dare-you-criticize-muslims/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>dajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>690 Hits friday, Snooper! Far outdistancing your Wordpress blog.  Unable to reply at the Moderate site, I answered the critic's accusation of cherry picking in a new post, which I have cross posted to your new site. It is long, detailed, and impossible for them to answer honestly. If I picked a cherry, so did Al-Misri!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>690 Hits friday, Snooper! Far outdistancing your WordPress blog.  Unable to reply at the Moderate site, I answered the critic&#8217;s accusation of cherry picking in a new post, which I have cross posted to your new site. It is long, detailed, and impossible for them to answer honestly. If I picked a cherry, so did Al-Misri!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Intolerant, Hateful Bigot!! How Dare You Criticize Muslims? by snooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>snooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOUGOGIRL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOUGOGIRL!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth vs Fact-Part 135 by snooper</title>
		<link>http://missbeth.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/myth-vs-fact-128/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>snooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education?  DO they even know what that is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education?  DO they even know what that is?</p>
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