Cultural Difference: Jihad Imperatives

http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_south/victorianews/opinion/39418024.html

Now comes Victoria News with a one sided approach to inter-cultural dialog. Google alerted me to the existence of their editorial from which I have quoted a few excerpts out of context with my comments.

EDITORIAL: Conversations about ethnic and cultural differences right way to go

This arises in context of Lorenzo Bouchard’s campaign to ban Islam from Canada. He allegedly posted demands for an Islam ban on bulletin boards at a local university. Subsequently, Muslim students claimed to be in fear for their physical safety because of those postings.

Fears about safety have been churned up in the Muslim student community at the University of Victoria recently

Is there any rational basis for those ‘fears”, or are they the product of paranoia or political expediency? Does Lorenzo Bouchard have a proven history of making or carrying out threats of physical violence? Was there any threatening language in those posters? While those questions remain unanswered, I will presume that the claims of “fears” are the product of political expediency.

There are violent passages in virtually all sacred religious texts, including some that target specific groups and some simply declaring the omnipotence of the god figure.

I am only familiar with Christian & Islamic scripture. Are Buddhists & Hindus engaging in Jihad? Did they perpetrate the attacks at Beslan, London, Madrid or New York? Then why bring up other scriptures?

The fact is that Islam’s scripture contains open ended, outcome oriented Jihad imperatives without chronological or geographic limits. I present the text of those ayat as translated by Hilali & Khan, with links to parallel translations and to Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir. [Emphasis added.]

  • 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
  • 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
  • Those are fight…until loops with compound terminal conditions; without time limits. They are not anachronisms. Their revelator prophesied that Jihad would continue until the last day.

    • …and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)…. Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2526

    The entire world must be conquered, no matter how long it takes, and Muslims will be cursed if they abandon their duty, as made clear in this hadith.

    • Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

    Can you connect the dots?

    • and give up conducting jihad
      • until you return to your original religion

      Conducting Jihad is their religion. I do not find in the Christian Gospels any direct equivalent to Islam’s Jihad imperative. If you find one, please submit the book chapter & verse.

      We must be careful as a society not to encourage the ignorance-based idea that everyone who adheres to a particular faith will interpret those passages the same way.

      Muslims are not empowered to interpret their scripture, which includes two types of verses: clear and unclear. The clear verses contain Allah’s commands, including those cited above, and his rules, etc. which are to be believed in and implemented. The clear verses do not require interpretation. The meaning of the clear verses has been fixed by scholars, based upon Moe’s sunnah. The unclear verses have meanings known only to Allah, and are to be believed but not implemented. To fully comprehend this, you need to read 3:7 and its tafsir.

      • 3:7. It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur’ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ’id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord.” And none receive admonition except men of understanding. (Tafsir At-Tabarî).
      • …The Muhkamat are the Ayat that explain the abrogating rulings, the allowed, prohibited, laws, limits, obligations and rulings that should be believed in and implemented. As for the Mutashabihat Ayat, they include the abrogated Ayat, parables, oaths, and what should be believed in, but not implemented…. The Mutashabihat and Muhkamat Ayat

      Moe demonstrated the meaning of 8:39 & 9:29 by waging numerous wars, as reported in his sunnah. Follow the links to the hadith cited above and use the links in the left side bar to go up to the next few levels and read the several books of Jihad in the four collections at USC. While Ibn Kathir goes into detail about the orders to fight, other exegetes find them so obvious that no elaboration is required. Examine these examples; note how Maududi goes into great detail about Jizya, but not the order to fight.

      The ban Islam campaign also calls for the destruction of the Qur’an, the Islamic holy book. On some levels, that’s like saying we should ban other religions because their holy texts refer to non-believers as heathens who should be destroyed.

      Please substantiate this assertion. Lorenzo’s petitions* call for Islam to be banned, they do not mention destroying the Qur’an. They also explicitly state the grounds on which Islam should be outlawed.

      To: Prime Minister of Canada (Stephen Harper)

      IN THE INTEREST OF HUMAN VALUES AND UNIVERSAL LOVE, WE DIRECT THIS PETITION TO OUR PRIME MINISTER,THE HONORABLE STEPHEN HARPER AND ALL MEMBERS OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PARLIAMENT.

      WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CANADIAN PETITIONERS, REQUEST A BAN ON THE ORGANIZATION CALLED ISLAM. WE REQUEST THIS BAN DUE TO THE CRIMINAL ACTS OF IT’S FOUNDER, MOHAMMED AND THE KORAN’S DOCTRINES WHICH LEGITIMIZES PAEDOPHILIA, ASSASSINATIONS, THE OPPRESSION OF WOMEN BY SUPPRESSING THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE UTILIZATION OF TERROR AS A WEAPON OF INTIMIDATION AND CONTROL.

      Sincerely,

      *

      But in this day and age, we must be vigilant when individuals or groups with a certain viewpoint threaten – either implicitly or directly – the well-being of others who are minding their own business.

      It appears to this reader that your editorial is casting innuendo against Lorenzo Bouchard, accusing him of threatening Muslims. If you have evidence of any threat, why don’t you publish it?

      The business of Islam; of Muslims is Jihad. Must we be vigilant against those who explicitly threaten our well being? It appears that you have no clue concerning the application of your own expression. I will therefore cite Islamic law, which requires a minimum of one military attack against Dar al-Harb in every year. The following quotes are from Umdat as-Salik. [Book O, Chapter 9.]

      O9.1 …As for subsequent times, there are two possible states in respect to non-Muslims. The first is when they are in their own countries, in which case jihad (def: o9.8) is a communal obligation, and this is what our author is speaking of when he says, “Jihad is a communal obligation,” meaning upon the Muslims each year….

      O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad

      The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

      “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),

      the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet’s saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),

      “I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,”

      this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).

      When Muslims carry out demonstrations, they frequently display signs urging our decapitation and proclaiming that Islam will conquer and dominate us. What do you say about those threats?

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      Obamination: Spewing Feces

      In his first televised interview since being inaugerated, President Barack Hussein Obama had some things to tell Al Arabiya.

      My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy,

      • My job to the Muslim world

      Mr. President, to what ever extent you are employed by the Muslim world you are a traitor and must be impeached & tried. Any & every hint of any sort of duty to anyone other than the citizens of the United States of America, collectively and its Constitution in particular is both false and treacherous.

      • the Americans are not your enemy

      Since when does the President of the United States define the enemies list of Islam? Are you the Caliph; the Mahdi? According to Allah, all non-Muslims are enemies to be fought until they become Muslim or are subjugated and make annual extortion payments. Between 1787 and 1815, Islam was making war against the United States, attacking our shipping, killing and enslaving the crews and seizing cargo. When asked for an explanation, this was the reply.

      [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War]

      In any case, Islam is our enemy, having declared and prosecuted war upon us. We need to reciprocate.

      “[W]e are ready to initiated a new partnership based on mutual respect and mutual interest,”

      • partnership

      Impossible! Muslims are not allowed to take Kuffar as partners, that is explicitly forbidden.

      3:118. O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand

      • mutual respect

      Muslims do not respect Kuffar! They regard us as rebels against Allah. They are mandated to make perpetual war against us [9:29] and our blood and property are not sacred to them until we become Muslims.[Bukhari 1.8.387].

      • mutual interest

      Our interests are life, liberty, prosperity peace & security. Islam’s interest is conquering the entire world for Allah, to fulfill his demonic mandate. We have no mutual interest.

      “I think it is possible for us to see a Palestinian state – I’m not going to put a time frame on it – that is contiguous,”

      Palestine is Israel. Jews are Palestinians. The Muslims, Arabs & mixed breeds illegally occupying Gaza and the West Bank are Falestinians, not Palestinians. The Levant is Jewish homeland, not Muslim Arab homeland. Muslim history in the Levant begins with Caliph Umar’s conquest of 638. There is no reason for a Falestinian state, the Kingdom of Jordan would serve that purpose if there was any reason.

      “[M]y job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world that the language we use has to be a language of respect,”

      “[T]he language we use matters,” “We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name.”

      • the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world

      We have a stake in peace. Either the Muslim world quits being Muslim or quits existing. Which will it be? Otherwise, we will never have peace or security. Islam is permanent war, from 610 to Ressurection Day. [Abu Dawud 14.2526]

      • the language we use has to be a language of respect

      Respect is given where respect is due, we earned ours and so will you. Islam is not worthy of respect and should receive nothing but execrations; it is pure, unmitigated evil, by design.

      Ultimately, we cannot tell either the Israelis or the Palestinians what’s best for them. They’re going to have to make some decisions. But I do believe that the moment is ripe for both sides to realize that the path that they are on is one that is not going to result in prosperity and security for their people. And that instead, it’s time to return to the negotiating table.

      Islam is on the war path, Israel seeks peace. The existence of Muslims in the region is the only obstacle to peace. Those Muslims should decide to abandon Jihad, but they will not, because Allah will curse them if they do [Abu Dawud 32.3455]. They must fulfill their demonic mandate to reconquer Israel [9:29]. Muslims are interested in conquest, neither prosperity nor security. The life of this world is but an illusion; they sold it for the gardens of Paradise in the next [9:111]. What is there to negotiate about with those who seed your total destruction [Muslim 41.6985]?

      I think that there are ideas across the region of how we might pursue peace.

      Islam pursues ‘peace’ through conquest so that Dar al-Harb will be totally engulfed by Dar al-Islam. Get a clue, idiot. Victory is a prequisite to peace. While Islam exists on this planet, peace will not.

      But I also believe that there are Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side.

      Peace is achieved through extermination of aggressors, not by appeasement. No matter what Israel sacrifices, she will get nothing but escalated atteaks in return. There is nothing to negotiate about with those Hellbent on genocide.

      Well, I think that when you look at the rhetoric that they’ve been using against me before I even took office –what that tells me is that their ideas are bankrupt. There’s no actions that they’ve taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them.

      In my inauguration speech, I spoke about: You will be judged on what you’ve built, not what you’ve destroyed. And what they’ve been doing is destroying things. And over time, I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.

      • their ideas are bankrupt.

      Their idea is Islam: world conquest through genocidal Jihad terrorizing their victems to render them incapable of resisting effectively.

      • There’s no actions that they’ve taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them

      Islam is about conquest; punishing Allah’s enemies and earning his rewards, not education or health care.

      • I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.

      You are ‘thinking’ with your anus, not your brain. The Arab street is chanting Jihad and “death to Israel, death to America”, not peace & prosperity.

      The largest one, Indonesia. And so what I want to communicate is the fact that in all my travels throughout the Muslim world, what I’ve come to understand is that regardless of your faith — and America is a country of Muslims, Jews, Christians, non-believers — regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.

      • regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.

      The hierarchy of needs we studied in psychology class does not apply to Muslims.

      2:212. Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allâh’s Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allâh gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favours, Honours, etc. on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit.

      3:185. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).

      4:77. Have you not seen those who were told to hold back their hands (from fighting) and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat­as­Salât), and give Zakât, but when the fighting was ordained for them, behold! a section of them fear men as they fear Allâh or even more. They say: “Our Lord! Why have you ordained for us fighting? Would that you had granted us respite for a short period?” Say: Short is the enjoyment of this world. The Hereafter is (far) better for him who fears Allâh, and you shall not be dealt with unjustly even equal to the Fatilâ (a scalish thread in the long slit of a date­stone).

      6:32. And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the Hereafter for those who are Al­Muttaqûn (the pious – see V.2:2). Will you not then understand?

      9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur’ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

      And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.

      That is not what they want. They want to Impose Allah and the rule of his writ upon the entire world by force, as Allah commanded them to do.

      But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there’s no reason why we can’t restore that. Andthat I think is going to be an important task.

      America was born as a group of colonies who threw off the colonial power and established independence. Muslims never respected us and never will, they hold us in contempt because we are not Muslims. Muslims can not take disbelievers as partners except fraudulently, to lull us into complacency; setting us up for attack. Thirty years ago, Khomeini’s mob seized our embassy and held the staff hostage for a year.

      And you’re going to see me following through with dealing with a drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility. And finally, I think you’ve already seen a commitment, in terms of closing Guantanamo, and making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we’re going to do so on our terms, and we’re going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.

      • drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility

      Iraqui responsibility is a function of secular, competent leadership with integrity, not corrupt Muslims lining their pockets. Decreasing American troop levels will not increase Iraqui responsibility, it will invite the rival gangs to kill each other & al-Qaeda to resume and expand operations.

      • closing Guantanamo

      Those goons should have been shot, not captured and transported to this hemisphere. There is no safe live disposal. There is no benefit in closing Guantanamo, and a great many complications.

      • making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we’re going to do so on our terms,

      The statement is void, meaningless. The enemy is Islam, a predatory institution dedicated to warmongering. While it exists, we will have neither peace nor security. Getting rid of Islam is the only way to end the war it started in 623 and continues to the present day. Islam is the terrorist organization.

      • we’re going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.

      The rule of law that makes America great is a domestic matter: our Constitution, which enumerates the limited powers of the federal government. Government by consent of the governed, for limited, well defined purposes is what makes this nation exceptional. Foreign Salafist warriors captured on distant battlefields do not have Miranda rights, are not entitled to counsel or trials. Their entitlement is to one bullet between the eyes. The high rate of recidivism among those released so far points out the idicy of President Obama’s policies.

      I think that you’re making a very important point. And that is that the language we use matters. And what we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations — whether Muslim or any other faith in the past — that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name. But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.

      • extremist organizations — whether Muslim or any other faith in the past — that will use faith as a justification for violence

      Islam was created for the purpose of promoting & perpetuating war as a source of wealth, income & sex slaves for its founder. Its mission is mercenary and its method is martial.

      • We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name

      Nobody else will point out, in this context, the source of the violence done in the name of Allah. I will. I do not give a damn who is offended.
      Allah ordained fighting for Muslims; made it a mandatory requirement.

      2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.

      Why in Hell is Jihad ordained for the “religion of peace”? For defense? Yeah, right. Moe fought one defensive battle when the Mekkans set out to eliminate him. Too bad they failed!

      Allah commanded Muslims to fight disbelievers until all resistance ends and only Allah is worshiped: a total monopoly of faith and practice global in scope.

      8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.

      What does that mean, if not exactly what it says? What did Moe do about it? Try reading Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir if you have any doubt: The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr.

      Allah commanded the Muslims to fight Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and extorted.

      9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      How do you explain that away? Don’t try, it is enshrined in Islamic law: Umdat as-Salik O9.8.

      The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

      “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),…

      Think you can explain that away? Give it a try in the comments, but, before you do, read Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir: The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah.

      Each of the four major hadith collections has a book of Jihad or Expedition. How do you explain that fact? Sahih Bukhari dedicates three books: Jihad, Khumus & Expedition to war related matters. Explain that away, if you can.

      One hadith collected by Abu Dawud proves my point better than any other. It illustrates the fatal fact of Islam: Islam is Jihad!

      Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

      And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda — that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it — and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop. We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.

      Islam is the terrorist organization that kills innocent civilians. Hunt it down and eracicate it! Moe was the prototypical terrorist.

      • Allah made me victorious by awe
      • I have been made victorious with terror

      The last sentence in the current quote proves that we elected a fool.

      • But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.

      60:1. O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists, etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism, this Qur’ân, and Muhammad ), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad ) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allâh your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure, (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists, etc., as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray, (away) from the Straight Path .

      I have shown you two of seven ayeh which forbid friendly relations with disbelievers. If you have a good Muslim buddy, he is not a good Muslim or – this hadith cited by Ibn Kathir might apply.

      For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” [The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers]

      You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran.

      Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that’s not conducive to peace and prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist organizations in the past — none of these things have been helpful.

      But I do think that it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran, to express very clearly where our differences are, but where there are potential avenues for progress. And we will over the next several months be laying out our general framework and approach. And as I said during my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us.

      Go ahead, talk to Iran. Tell them about Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Tell them “once is enough, but we can use them again if we need to, and we will not hesitate”. Unless you will say “Go to Hell and be damned!”, there is nothing else to say to Iran. There is nothing to negotiate about with someone pledged to destroy our civilization.

      Islam or Liberty?

      An editorial in the Wall Street Journal raises critical issues. Lets examine them carefully.
      Geert Wilders
      ‘Our Culture Is Better’
      Champion of freedom or anti-Islamic provocateur? Both.
      By JAMES TARANTO

      Mr. Wilders is right to call for a vigilant defense of liberal principles. A society has a right, indeed a duty, to require that religious minorities comply with secular rules of civilized behavior. But to demand that they renounce their religious identity and holy books is itself an affront to liberal principles.


      Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


      Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Laws prohibiting the free exercise of Islam are unconstitutional. Congress can not outlaw:

      • Jihad: [Translator’s footnote to 2:190.]
      • holy fighting
      • in Allah’s cause
    • with full force of arms
    • Jihad means to war against non-Muslims [Reliance of the Traveller: O9.0 (Islamic law.)]
      • against pagans
      • 8:39 And fight them until there is no more Fitnah…and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone
      • Reliance of the Traveller O9.9
        • The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim…
      • against Jews & Christians
        • 9:29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah,…among the people of the Scripture…until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
        • Reliance of the Traveller O9.8
        • The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…
      • Genocide:
        • 8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. …
        • 47:4. So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allâh’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam…
        • Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390:
          Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
          I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.
      • Terrorism:
        • 3:151. We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve,
        • 8:12. … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.
        • Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
          Narrated Abu Huraira:

          Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy),…

      • Rape of captive women:
        • 4:24. Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess.
        • Bukhari 5.59.459

        Jihad, genocide, terrorism & rape (of captives) are intrinsic sacraments of Islam; religious practices under the umbrella of first amendment protection. That does not square with liberal principles:

        • right to life
        • liberty
        • freedom of religious belief & practice.

        If Muslims have the right to practice Islam, then you do not have any rights.

        • life
      • liberty
        • Pagans & atheists must be killed, converted or enslaved.
        • People of the Book may be converted or live as less than second class citizens under a “treaty of protection“.
        • Dhimmis may not:
        • pray or recite scripture aloud in public
        • build new churches
        • repair existing churches
        • own or carry weapons
        • testify in court against a Muslim

        Muslims can not renounce the Qur’an or any part thereof without becoming apostates subject to the death penalty.

        • Reliance O8.7.7 to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it; [Acts which entail apostasy.]
        • O8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
        • O8.2 In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representive) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.

        The Qur’an can not be edited to render Islam anodyne.

        • Allah has perfected it. Perfection can only be defiled, not improved.
        • 6:115. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All­Hearer, the All­Knower

        An irreconcilable conflict exists between the imperatives of Islam and the rules of civilized behavior & rights of man enshrined in the Declaration of Independence & guaranteed by the Constitution. The preservation of our lives & liberties requires the removal of Islam from our society.

        • Close the Mosques.
        • Close the Madrassahs.
        • Close the Islamic Cultural Centers.
        • Deport the Muslims already here.
        • Prevent the entry of Muslims.

        None of those necessary actions can be taken without first amending the Constitution to recognize the fact that Islam is a war machine, not a legitimate religion worthy of first amendment protection. Pedestrian Infidel has posted a proposed 28th amendment. An on line petition calling for a generic amendment is explained here and is posted at petition on line.

        Islam or Liberty?

        An  editorial in the Wall Street Journal raises critical issues. Lets examine them carefully.
        Geert Wilders
        ‘Our Culture Is Better’
        Champion of freedom or anti-Islamic provocateur? Both.
        By JAMES TARANTO

        Mr. Wilders is right to call for a vigilant defense of liberal principles. A society has a right, indeed a duty, to require that religious minorities comply with secular rules of civilized behavior. But to demand that they renounce their religious identity and holy books is itself an affront to liberal principles.


        Amendment I

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. 


            Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.  Laws prohibiting the free exercise of Islam are unconstitutional.  Congress can not outlaw: 

        • Jihad: [Translator’s footnote to 2:190.]
        • holy fighting
        • in Allah’s cause
      • with full force of arms
      • Jihad means to war against non-Muslims [Reliance of the Traveller: O9.0 (Islamic law.)]
        • against pagans
        • 8:39  And fight them until there is no more Fitnah…and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone
        • Reliance of the Traveller O9.9
          • The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim…
        • against Jews & Christians
          • 9:29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah,…among the people of the Scripture…until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
          • Reliance of the Traveller O9.8
          • The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…
        • Genocide:
          • 8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. …
          • 47:4. So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allâh’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam…
          • Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390:
            Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
            I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.
        • Terrorism:
          • 3:151We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, …
          • 8:12. … I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.
          • Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:
             Narrated Abu Huraira:

                Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy),…

        • Rape of captive women:
          • 4:24. Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess.
          • Bukhari 5.59.459 

              Jihad, genocide, terrorism & rape (of captives) are intrinsic sacraments of Islam; religious practices under the umbrella of first amendment protection.  That does not square with liberal principles:

          • right to life
          • liberty
          • freedom of religious belief & practice.

          If Muslims have the right to practice Islam, then you do not have any rights.

          • life
        • liberty
          • Pagans & atheists  must be killed, converted or enslaved. 
          • People of the Book may be converted or live as less than second class citizens under a “treaty of protection“.
          • Dhimmis may not:
          • pray or recite scripture aloud in public
          • build new churches
          • repair existing churches
          • own or carry weapons
          • testify in court against a Muslim

              Muslims can not renounce the Qur’an or any part thereof without becoming apostates subject to the death penalty.

          • Reliance O8.7.7 to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it; [Acts which entail apostasy.]
          • O8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
          • O8.2  In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representive) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.

              The Qur’an can not be edited to render Islam anodyne.

          • Allah has perfected it. Perfection can only be defiled, not improved. 
          • 6:115. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All­Hearer, the All­Knower

              An irreconcilable conflict exists between the imperatives of Islam and the rules of civilized behavior & rights of man enshrined in the Declaration of Independence & guaranteed by the Constitution.  The preservation of our lives & liberties requires the removal of  Islam from our society.

          • Close the Mosques.
          • Close the Madrassahs.
          • Close the Islamic Cultural Centers.
          • Deport the Muslims already here. 
          • Prevent the entry of Muslims. 

              None of those necessary actions can be taken without first amending the Constitution to recognize the fact that Islam is a war machine, not a legitimate religion worthy of first amendment protection.  Pedestrian Infidel has posted a proposed 28th amendment. An on line petition calling for a generic amendment is explained here and is posted at petition on line.

          The Qur’an: Literal or Allegorical???


          Does the Qur’an mean what it says? Is it to be taken literally or is it metaphorical or allegorical? Tafsir are explanations of verses from the Qur’an, written by experts who compare verses and hadith, matching up their meanings. qtafsir.com has the only practical tafsir search engine known to me. In these tafsir topics, Ibn Kathir uses other ayat and ahadith to explain the meaning of ayat. The headings below are the search terms used in an exact search. These tafsir explain the following ayat:

          1. 9:29
          2. 4:77
          3. 8:39
          4. 2:193

          Order to fight

          …knowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture,) This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people ente…

          …12;﴾ (Those who believe say: “Why is not a Surah sent down (for us)”) means, a Surah containing an order to fight. Then He says, ﴿فَإِذَ…

          Allah said, ﴿وَقَـتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَ

          Allah then commanded fighting the disbelievers when He said: ﴿حَتَّى لاَ ت

          1. 4:77
          2. 3:121
          3. 9:5

          Command to fight

          …umerous enemies. The Muslims’ city was a sacred one and the most honored area on the earth, and this is why the command to fight was not revealed in Makkah. Later on when the Muslims controlled a …

          2. The Reason Behind the Battle of Uhud
          (3. Surah Al `Imran/Topics)
          …75;لْقِتَال» (No one starts fighting until I issue the command to fight.) The Messenger prepared his forces for battle, and his army…

          Abu Ja`far Ar-Razi said that Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that Abu Al-`Aliyah commented on what Allah said: ﴿وَقَـتِلُواْ

          Click the links above and read those tafsir topics. See what Allah commanded Muslims to do. See what Muhammad did. Muslims & Dhimmis will tell you that the Qur’an does not mean what it says, ignoring 3:7, which informs them that the Qur’an contains commands expressed in clear verses.

          If “ fight them…” & “fight those who”… “until”… do not mean exactly what they say, then:

          1. Why did Muhammad confirm it ?

            Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
            Narrated Anas bin Malik:
            Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

          2. Why is 9:29 used as the basis of Islamic law? I quote from Reliance of the Traveler, which is described here. [Emphasis added.]

            O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
            The caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o-11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
            “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),

          The Qur’an: Literal or Allegorical???


          Does the Qur’an mean what it says? Is it to be taken literally or is it metaphorical or allegorical? Tafsir are explanations of verses from the Qur’an, written by experts who compare verses and hadith, matching up their meanings. qtafsir.com has the only practical tafsir search engine known to me. In these tafsir topics, Ibn Kathir uses other ayat and ahadith to explain the meaning of ayat. The headings below are the search terms used in an exact search. These tafsir explain the following ayat:

          1. 9:29
          2. 4:77
          3. 8:39
          4. 2:193

          Order to fight

          …knowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture,) This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people ente…

          …12;﴾ (Those who believe say: “Why is not a Surah sent down (for us)”) means, a Surah containing an order to fight. Then He says, ﴿فَإِذَ…

          Allah said, ﴿وَقَـتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَ

          Allah then commanded fighting the disbelievers when He said: ﴿حَتَّى لاَ ت

          1. 4:77
          2. 3:121
          3. 9:5

          Command to fight

          …umerous enemies. The Muslims’ city was a sacred one and the most honored area on the earth, and this is why the command to fight was not revealed in Makkah. Later on when the Muslims controlled a …

          2. The Reason Behind the Battle of Uhud
          (3. Surah Al `Imran/Topics)
          …75;لْقِتَال» (No one starts fighting until I issue the command to fight.) The Messenger prepared his forces for battle, and his army…

          Abu Ja`far Ar-Razi said that Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that Abu Al-`Aliyah commented on what Allah said: ﴿وَقَـتِلُواْ

          Click the links above and read those tafsir topics. See what Allah commanded Muslims to do. See what Muhammad did. Muslims & Dhimmis will tell you that the Qur’an does not mean what it says, ignoring 3:7, which informs them that the Qur’an contains commands expressed in clear verses.

          If “ fight them…” & “fight those who”… “until”… do not mean exactly what they say, then:

          1. Why did Muhammad confirm it ?

            Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
            Narrated Anas bin Malik:
            Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

          2. Why is 9:29 used as the basis of Islamic law? I quote from Reliance of the Traveler, which is described here. [Emphasis added.]

            O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
            The caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o-11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
            “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),

          The Qur’an: Literal or Allegorical???


          Does the Qur’an mean what it says? Is it to be taken literally or is it metaphorical or allegorical? Tafsir are explanations of verses from the Qur’an, written by experts who compare verses and hadith, matching up their meanings. qtafsir.com has the only practical tafsir search engine known to me. In these tafsir topics, Ibn Kathir uses other ayat and ahadith to explain the meaning of ayat. The headings below are the search terms used in an exact search. These tafsir explain the following ayat:

          1. 9:29
          2. 4:77
          3. 8:39
          4. 2:193

          Order to fight

          …knowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture,) This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people ente…

          …12;﴾ (Those who believe say: “Why is not a Surah sent down (for us)”) means, a Surah containing an order to fight. Then He says, ﴿فَإِذَ…

          Allah said, ﴿وَقَـتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَ

          Allah then commanded fighting the disbelievers when He said: ﴿حَتَّى لاَ ت

          1. 4:77
          2. 3:121
          3. 9:5

          Command to fight

          …umerous enemies. The Muslims’ city was a sacred one and the most honored area on the earth, and this is why the command to fight was not revealed in Makkah. Later on when the Muslims controlled a …

          2. The Reason Behind the Battle of Uhud
          (3. Surah Al `Imran/Topics)
          …75;لْقِتَال» (No one starts fighting until I issue the command to fight.) The Messenger prepared his forces for battle, and his army…

          Abu Ja`far Ar-Razi said that Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that Abu Al-`Aliyah commented on what Allah said: ﴿وَقَـتِلُواْ

          Click the links above and read those tafsir topics. See what Allah commanded Muslims to do. See what Muhammad did. Muslims & Dhimmis will tell you that the Qur’an does not mean what it says, ignoring 3:7, which informs them that the Qur’an contains commands expressed in clear verses.

          If “ fight them…” & “fight those who”… “until”… do not mean exactly what they say, then:

          1. Why did Muhammad confirm it ?

            Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
            Narrated Anas bin Malik:
            Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

          2. Why is 9:29 used as the basis of Islamic law? I quote from Reliance of the Traveler, which is described here. [Emphasis added.]

            O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
            The caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o-11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
            “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),