Cultural Difference: Jihad Imperatives

http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_south/victorianews/opinion/39418024.html

Now comes Victoria News with a one sided approach to inter-cultural dialog. Google alerted me to the existence of their editorial from which I have quoted a few excerpts out of context with my comments.

EDITORIAL: Conversations about ethnic and cultural differences right way to go

This arises in context of Lorenzo Bouchard’s campaign to ban Islam from Canada. He allegedly posted demands for an Islam ban on bulletin boards at a local university. Subsequently, Muslim students claimed to be in fear for their physical safety because of those postings.

Fears about safety have been churned up in the Muslim student community at the University of Victoria recently

Is there any rational basis for those ‘fears”, or are they the product of paranoia or political expediency? Does Lorenzo Bouchard have a proven history of making or carrying out threats of physical violence? Was there any threatening language in those posters? While those questions remain unanswered, I will presume that the claims of “fears” are the product of political expediency.

There are violent passages in virtually all sacred religious texts, including some that target specific groups and some simply declaring the omnipotence of the god figure.

I am only familiar with Christian & Islamic scripture. Are Buddhists & Hindus engaging in Jihad? Did they perpetrate the attacks at Beslan, London, Madrid or New York? Then why bring up other scriptures?

The fact is that Islam’s scripture contains open ended, outcome oriented Jihad imperatives without chronological or geographic limits. I present the text of those ayat as translated by Hilali & Khan, with links to parallel translations and to Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir. [Emphasis added.]

  • 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
  • 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
  • Those are fight…until loops with compound terminal conditions; without time limits. They are not anachronisms. Their revelator prophesied that Jihad would continue until the last day.

    • …and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)…. Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2526

    The entire world must be conquered, no matter how long it takes, and Muslims will be cursed if they abandon their duty, as made clear in this hadith.

    • Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

    Can you connect the dots?

    • and give up conducting jihad
      • until you return to your original religion

      Conducting Jihad is their religion. I do not find in the Christian Gospels any direct equivalent to Islam’s Jihad imperative. If you find one, please submit the book chapter & verse.

      We must be careful as a society not to encourage the ignorance-based idea that everyone who adheres to a particular faith will interpret those passages the same way.

      Muslims are not empowered to interpret their scripture, which includes two types of verses: clear and unclear. The clear verses contain Allah’s commands, including those cited above, and his rules, etc. which are to be believed in and implemented. The clear verses do not require interpretation. The meaning of the clear verses has been fixed by scholars, based upon Moe’s sunnah. The unclear verses have meanings known only to Allah, and are to be believed but not implemented. To fully comprehend this, you need to read 3:7 and its tafsir.

      • 3:7. It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur’ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ’id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord.” And none receive admonition except men of understanding. (Tafsir At-Tabarî).
      • …The Muhkamat are the Ayat that explain the abrogating rulings, the allowed, prohibited, laws, limits, obligations and rulings that should be believed in and implemented. As for the Mutashabihat Ayat, they include the abrogated Ayat, parables, oaths, and what should be believed in, but not implemented…. The Mutashabihat and Muhkamat Ayat

      Moe demonstrated the meaning of 8:39 & 9:29 by waging numerous wars, as reported in his sunnah. Follow the links to the hadith cited above and use the links in the left side bar to go up to the next few levels and read the several books of Jihad in the four collections at USC. While Ibn Kathir goes into detail about the orders to fight, other exegetes find them so obvious that no elaboration is required. Examine these examples; note how Maududi goes into great detail about Jizya, but not the order to fight.

      The ban Islam campaign also calls for the destruction of the Qur’an, the Islamic holy book. On some levels, that’s like saying we should ban other religions because their holy texts refer to non-believers as heathens who should be destroyed.

      Please substantiate this assertion. Lorenzo’s petitions* call for Islam to be banned, they do not mention destroying the Qur’an. They also explicitly state the grounds on which Islam should be outlawed.

      To: Prime Minister of Canada (Stephen Harper)

      IN THE INTEREST OF HUMAN VALUES AND UNIVERSAL LOVE, WE DIRECT THIS PETITION TO OUR PRIME MINISTER,THE HONORABLE STEPHEN HARPER AND ALL MEMBERS OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PARLIAMENT.

      WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CANADIAN PETITIONERS, REQUEST A BAN ON THE ORGANIZATION CALLED ISLAM. WE REQUEST THIS BAN DUE TO THE CRIMINAL ACTS OF IT’S FOUNDER, MOHAMMED AND THE KORAN’S DOCTRINES WHICH LEGITIMIZES PAEDOPHILIA, ASSASSINATIONS, THE OPPRESSION OF WOMEN BY SUPPRESSING THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE UTILIZATION OF TERROR AS A WEAPON OF INTIMIDATION AND CONTROL.

      Sincerely,

      *

      But in this day and age, we must be vigilant when individuals or groups with a certain viewpoint threaten – either implicitly or directly – the well-being of others who are minding their own business.

      It appears to this reader that your editorial is casting innuendo against Lorenzo Bouchard, accusing him of threatening Muslims. If you have evidence of any threat, why don’t you publish it?

      The business of Islam; of Muslims is Jihad. Must we be vigilant against those who explicitly threaten our well being? It appears that you have no clue concerning the application of your own expression. I will therefore cite Islamic law, which requires a minimum of one military attack against Dar al-Harb in every year. The following quotes are from Umdat as-Salik. [Book O, Chapter 9.]

      O9.1 …As for subsequent times, there are two possible states in respect to non-Muslims. The first is when they are in their own countries, in which case jihad (def: o9.8) is a communal obligation, and this is what our author is speaking of when he says, “Jihad is a communal obligation,” meaning upon the Muslims each year….

      O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad

      The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

      “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),

      the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet’s saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),

      “I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,”

      this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).

      When Muslims carry out demonstrations, they frequently display signs urging our decapitation and proclaiming that Islam will conquer and dominate us. What do you say about those threats?

      Advertisements

      Obamination: Spewing Feces

      In his first televised interview since being inaugerated, President Barack Hussein Obama had some things to tell Al Arabiya.

      My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy,

      • My job to the Muslim world

      Mr. President, to what ever extent you are employed by the Muslim world you are a traitor and must be impeached & tried. Any & every hint of any sort of duty to anyone other than the citizens of the United States of America, collectively and its Constitution in particular is both false and treacherous.

      • the Americans are not your enemy

      Since when does the President of the United States define the enemies list of Islam? Are you the Caliph; the Mahdi? According to Allah, all non-Muslims are enemies to be fought until they become Muslim or are subjugated and make annual extortion payments. Between 1787 and 1815, Islam was making war against the United States, attacking our shipping, killing and enslaving the crews and seizing cargo. When asked for an explanation, this was the reply.

      [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War]

      In any case, Islam is our enemy, having declared and prosecuted war upon us. We need to reciprocate.

      “[W]e are ready to initiated a new partnership based on mutual respect and mutual interest,”

      • partnership

      Impossible! Muslims are not allowed to take Kuffar as partners, that is explicitly forbidden.

      3:118. O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand

      • mutual respect

      Muslims do not respect Kuffar! They regard us as rebels against Allah. They are mandated to make perpetual war against us [9:29] and our blood and property are not sacred to them until we become Muslims.[Bukhari 1.8.387].

      • mutual interest

      Our interests are life, liberty, prosperity peace & security. Islam’s interest is conquering the entire world for Allah, to fulfill his demonic mandate. We have no mutual interest.

      “I think it is possible for us to see a Palestinian state – I’m not going to put a time frame on it – that is contiguous,”

      Palestine is Israel. Jews are Palestinians. The Muslims, Arabs & mixed breeds illegally occupying Gaza and the West Bank are Falestinians, not Palestinians. The Levant is Jewish homeland, not Muslim Arab homeland. Muslim history in the Levant begins with Caliph Umar’s conquest of 638. There is no reason for a Falestinian state, the Kingdom of Jordan would serve that purpose if there was any reason.

      “[M]y job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world that the language we use has to be a language of respect,”

      “[T]he language we use matters,” “We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name.”

      • the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world

      We have a stake in peace. Either the Muslim world quits being Muslim or quits existing. Which will it be? Otherwise, we will never have peace or security. Islam is permanent war, from 610 to Ressurection Day. [Abu Dawud 14.2526]

      • the language we use has to be a language of respect

      Respect is given where respect is due, we earned ours and so will you. Islam is not worthy of respect and should receive nothing but execrations; it is pure, unmitigated evil, by design.

      Ultimately, we cannot tell either the Israelis or the Palestinians what’s best for them. They’re going to have to make some decisions. But I do believe that the moment is ripe for both sides to realize that the path that they are on is one that is not going to result in prosperity and security for their people. And that instead, it’s time to return to the negotiating table.

      Islam is on the war path, Israel seeks peace. The existence of Muslims in the region is the only obstacle to peace. Those Muslims should decide to abandon Jihad, but they will not, because Allah will curse them if they do [Abu Dawud 32.3455]. They must fulfill their demonic mandate to reconquer Israel [9:29]. Muslims are interested in conquest, neither prosperity nor security. The life of this world is but an illusion; they sold it for the gardens of Paradise in the next [9:111]. What is there to negotiate about with those who seed your total destruction [Muslim 41.6985]?

      I think that there are ideas across the region of how we might pursue peace.

      Islam pursues ‘peace’ through conquest so that Dar al-Harb will be totally engulfed by Dar al-Islam. Get a clue, idiot. Victory is a prequisite to peace. While Islam exists on this planet, peace will not.

      But I also believe that there are Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side.

      Peace is achieved through extermination of aggressors, not by appeasement. No matter what Israel sacrifices, she will get nothing but escalated atteaks in return. There is nothing to negotiate about with those Hellbent on genocide.

      Well, I think that when you look at the rhetoric that they’ve been using against me before I even took office –what that tells me is that their ideas are bankrupt. There’s no actions that they’ve taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them.

      In my inauguration speech, I spoke about: You will be judged on what you’ve built, not what you’ve destroyed. And what they’ve been doing is destroying things. And over time, I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.

      • their ideas are bankrupt.

      Their idea is Islam: world conquest through genocidal Jihad terrorizing their victems to render them incapable of resisting effectively.

      • There’s no actions that they’ve taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them

      Islam is about conquest; punishing Allah’s enemies and earning his rewards, not education or health care.

      • I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.

      You are ‘thinking’ with your anus, not your brain. The Arab street is chanting Jihad and “death to Israel, death to America”, not peace & prosperity.

      The largest one, Indonesia. And so what I want to communicate is the fact that in all my travels throughout the Muslim world, what I’ve come to understand is that regardless of your faith — and America is a country of Muslims, Jews, Christians, non-believers — regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.

      • regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.

      The hierarchy of needs we studied in psychology class does not apply to Muslims.

      2:212. Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allâh’s Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allâh gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favours, Honours, etc. on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit.

      3:185. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).

      4:77. Have you not seen those who were told to hold back their hands (from fighting) and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat­as­Salât), and give Zakât, but when the fighting was ordained for them, behold! a section of them fear men as they fear Allâh or even more. They say: “Our Lord! Why have you ordained for us fighting? Would that you had granted us respite for a short period?” Say: Short is the enjoyment of this world. The Hereafter is (far) better for him who fears Allâh, and you shall not be dealt with unjustly even equal to the Fatilâ (a scalish thread in the long slit of a date­stone).

      6:32. And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the Hereafter for those who are Al­Muttaqûn (the pious – see V.2:2). Will you not then understand?

      9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur’ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

      And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.

      That is not what they want. They want to Impose Allah and the rule of his writ upon the entire world by force, as Allah commanded them to do.

      But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there’s no reason why we can’t restore that. Andthat I think is going to be an important task.

      America was born as a group of colonies who threw off the colonial power and established independence. Muslims never respected us and never will, they hold us in contempt because we are not Muslims. Muslims can not take disbelievers as partners except fraudulently, to lull us into complacency; setting us up for attack. Thirty years ago, Khomeini’s mob seized our embassy and held the staff hostage for a year.

      And you’re going to see me following through with dealing with a drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility. And finally, I think you’ve already seen a commitment, in terms of closing Guantanamo, and making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we’re going to do so on our terms, and we’re going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.

      • drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility

      Iraqui responsibility is a function of secular, competent leadership with integrity, not corrupt Muslims lining their pockets. Decreasing American troop levels will not increase Iraqui responsibility, it will invite the rival gangs to kill each other & al-Qaeda to resume and expand operations.

      • closing Guantanamo

      Those goons should have been shot, not captured and transported to this hemisphere. There is no safe live disposal. There is no benefit in closing Guantanamo, and a great many complications.

      • making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we’re going to do so on our terms,

      The statement is void, meaningless. The enemy is Islam, a predatory institution dedicated to warmongering. While it exists, we will have neither peace nor security. Getting rid of Islam is the only way to end the war it started in 623 and continues to the present day. Islam is the terrorist organization.

      • we’re going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.

      The rule of law that makes America great is a domestic matter: our Constitution, which enumerates the limited powers of the federal government. Government by consent of the governed, for limited, well defined purposes is what makes this nation exceptional. Foreign Salafist warriors captured on distant battlefields do not have Miranda rights, are not entitled to counsel or trials. Their entitlement is to one bullet between the eyes. The high rate of recidivism among those released so far points out the idicy of President Obama’s policies.

      I think that you’re making a very important point. And that is that the language we use matters. And what we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations — whether Muslim or any other faith in the past — that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name. But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.

      • extremist organizations — whether Muslim or any other faith in the past — that will use faith as a justification for violence

      Islam was created for the purpose of promoting & perpetuating war as a source of wealth, income & sex slaves for its founder. Its mission is mercenary and its method is martial.

      • We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name

      Nobody else will point out, in this context, the source of the violence done in the name of Allah. I will. I do not give a damn who is offended.
      Allah ordained fighting for Muslims; made it a mandatory requirement.

      2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.

      Why in Hell is Jihad ordained for the “religion of peace”? For defense? Yeah, right. Moe fought one defensive battle when the Mekkans set out to eliminate him. Too bad they failed!

      Allah commanded Muslims to fight disbelievers until all resistance ends and only Allah is worshiped: a total monopoly of faith and practice global in scope.

      8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.

      What does that mean, if not exactly what it says? What did Moe do about it? Try reading Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir if you have any doubt: The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr.

      Allah commanded the Muslims to fight Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and extorted.

      9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      How do you explain that away? Don’t try, it is enshrined in Islamic law: Umdat as-Salik O9.8.

      The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

      “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),…

      Think you can explain that away? Give it a try in the comments, but, before you do, read Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir: The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah.

      Each of the four major hadith collections has a book of Jihad or Expedition. How do you explain that fact? Sahih Bukhari dedicates three books: Jihad, Khumus & Expedition to war related matters. Explain that away, if you can.

      One hadith collected by Abu Dawud proves my point better than any other. It illustrates the fatal fact of Islam: Islam is Jihad!

      Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

      And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda — that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it — and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop. We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.

      Islam is the terrorist organization that kills innocent civilians. Hunt it down and eracicate it! Moe was the prototypical terrorist.

      • Allah made me victorious by awe
      • I have been made victorious with terror

      The last sentence in the current quote proves that we elected a fool.

      • But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.

      60:1. O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists, etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism, this Qur’ân, and Muhammad ), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad ) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allâh your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure, (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists, etc., as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray, (away) from the Straight Path .

      I have shown you two of seven ayeh which forbid friendly relations with disbelievers. If you have a good Muslim buddy, he is not a good Muslim or – this hadith cited by Ibn Kathir might apply.

      For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” [The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers]

      You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran.

      Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that’s not conducive to peace and prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist organizations in the past — none of these things have been helpful.

      But I do think that it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran, to express very clearly where our differences are, but where there are potential avenues for progress. And we will over the next several months be laying out our general framework and approach. And as I said during my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us.

      Go ahead, talk to Iran. Tell them about Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Tell them “once is enough, but we can use them again if we need to, and we will not hesitate”. Unless you will say “Go to Hell and be damned!”, there is nothing else to say to Iran. There is nothing to negotiate about with someone pledged to destroy our civilization.

      U.N. Council of Idiots

      A press release from the UN informs us that the Security Council, by a vote of 14:0 with Libya abstaining, passed a resolution in support of a two state solution of the ‘Mid East Conflict’.

      The resolution is proof positive that the UN Security council is composed of willfully blind fools. None but the willfully blind can see a vision of a Jewish state and a Muslim state living in peace and security side by side.

      Such a condition has never existed, does not now exist and never will exist because Islam is permanent war. Allah’s imperative is clear and unmistakable. It names the intended victims and commands Muslims to fight them until the victims are subjugated and pay extortion. The imperative has neither geographic nor chronological limits.

      9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      • This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people entered Allah’s religion in large numbers, and the Arabian Peninsula was secured under the Muslims’ control. Allah commanded His Messenger to fight the People of the Scriptures, Jews and Christians, on the ninth year of Hijrah, and he prepared his army to fight the Romans and called the people to Jihad announcing his intent and destination. The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah

      Moe confirmed receipt of this order to fight, and the confirmation was reported by the oral tradition of his companions.

      Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
      Narrated Anas bin Malik:
      Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.“…

      The eternal duration of Jihad is also recorded in Islamic oral tradition as codified by Abu Dawud.

      Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2526

      Narrated Anas ibn Malik:

      The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

      The authentic collections of Bukhari & Muslim record another saying which bears more directly upon the present case. “The hour” is a reference to Judgment Day, when the faithful Muslims will at last obtain admission to Paradise and claim their perpetual virgin houris and rivers of wine. This saying sets the slaughter of the Jews as a prerequisite for the Muslims receiving the reward they have so long sought. Read it carefully.

      Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
      Narrated Abu Huraira:

      Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

      Islam’s end time prophecy informs us that when Jesus returns, he will kill the remnant of the Jews. Read this tradition from Abu Dawud’s collection, with great care to the portions I have highlighted.

      Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:

      Narrated AbuHurayrah:

      The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.

      If that seems ambiguous, Ibn Kathir’s exegeses of 7:167 is crystal clear.

      …He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. …

      • …In the future, the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah); and the Muslims, along with `Isa, son of Mary, will kill the Jews. This will occur just before the end of this world. … Eternal Humiliation placed on the Jews

      Only an ignorant, deluded fool hopes that Islam will allow peace & security for Israel. If they are faithful Muslims, they can not tolerate Israel’s existence. They have a divine mandate to make war upon the Jews. Have you not read Rodwell’s translation of Al-Taubah 29?

      Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.

      Exactly what part of that do you not comprehend? It is an outcome oriented imperative; a do until loop. Let me clarify the matter for you.

      • Muslims must make war upon Jews
      • until
      • they are subjugated & humiliated
      • they make annual extortion payments
      • they submit to domination by Muslims.
    • The Jihad continues until the last day, when:
      • Jesus will return to
      • lead the Muslims in battle against the Jews
      • kill the last remaining Jews hiding behind trees and rocks.

      Aside from Allah’s imperative to conquer the Jews, there is another problem: Allah’s promises. He promised the Muslims that he would give them the land to rule over.

      13:41. See they not that We gradually reduce the land (of disbelievers, by giving it to the believers, in war victories) from its outlying borders. And Allah judges, there is none to put back His Judgment and He is Swift at reckoning.

      24:55. Allah has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islam). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).

      Allah also promised Muslims a significant military advantage over superior forces, so great a promise that they could not fulfill it and he had to lower his sights.

      8:65. O Prophet (Muhammad)! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are people who do not understand.

      8:66. Now Allah has lightened your (task), for He knows that there is weakness in you. So if there are of you a hundred steadfast persons, they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand of you, they shall overcome two thousand with the Leave of Allah. And Allah is with As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.).

      You need to take into account a few vital facts:

      Muslims take, they don’t give back. Land conquered by Muslims is placed in an inalienable trust for Allah. This is made clear in Article 11 of the Charter of Hamas. The fact that Israel reconquered land conquered by Caliph Umar is a thorn in their side, a never ending irritant to Muslims.

      Worse yet is the fact that Israel’s existence proves Allah’s promises to be void; that Allah is an impotent idol. This is why peace is impossible: Islam can not tolerate any insult to Allah. The clincher is in this tradition found in Abu Dawud’s collection. It informs us that Allah will curse the Muslims if they abandon aggressive warfare in favor of productive pursuits and will not remove the curse until they return to Jihad.

      Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:
      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

      When have the Muslims ceased from inculcating hatred of Israel in their schools, Mosques & media? When have they ceased from inciting violence against Israel? They have not and they never will. What makes any fool believe that Muslims will conclude and observe a durable peace?

      47:35. So be not weak and ask not for peace (from the enemies of Islam), while you are having the upper hand. Allah is with you, and will never decrease the reward of your good deeds.

      9:1. Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allah and His Messenger () to those of the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), with whom you made a treaty.

      Moe’s abrogation after three years of a ten year treaty with the Mekkans is Sunnah; an example to be emulated by all future generations. The bottom line: there is no peace and will be none until someone wises up and eradicates Islam. The so called “peace process” is a waste of time. Concessions & good will gestures only whet Islam’s apetite, which can never be sated short of total world conquest so that as Abdullah Yusuf Ali renders it, “there prevail justice and faith in God altogether and everywhere” or, as Hilali & Khan render it, “religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]“.

      If you require further clarification, please submit relevant questions in a comment.