Illegal Immigration and "What If America?"

Those of you who are regular readers of this blog know I live in Arizona, a border state. I’m also a die-hard advocate of ending illegal immigration, building the mandated fence and enforcing existing border laws.

Too bad if that offends you. I happen to like American sovereignty. I also don’t want to hear the whining I can already hear warming up in the wings regarding “all of us were immigrants or are descended from immigrants”. Before you start the whining, understand this–I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE WHO WISH TO EMIGRATE HERE LEGALLY. MY PROBLEM IS ILLEGALS. If you are incapable of comprehending that distinction, stop reading right here and leave the blog. Mexico–and all other countries for that matter–enforce their standing immigration laws; we need to follow and enforce ours. Whiners can follow the advice given below as well.


I am not pleased with the stance of any of our presidential candidates regarding the illegal issue.
Neither Hillary nor Barack Hussein Obama want to enforce existing laws and are all for giving all kinds of taxpayer money to all illegals. It follows their stated globalist agendas.

McCain co-sponsored the McCain-Kennedy Shamnesty. At this point in time he states he heard the people loud and clear and learned his lesson; however, once bitten twice shy and I will have to see him in action on this issue in order to trust him again.

In Arizona, a new law went into affect January 1, 2008. This law–The Legal Arizona Worker’s Law, more commonly known as the Employer Sanctions Law, has already faced court challenges regarding its validity. It has proven very effective in a very short period of time.

The challenge came from–SURPRISE–the ACLU as an “unconstitutional statute” (their press release is dated February 7, 2008) For more information on the ACLU’s stance, check out their site here. Newsflash, ACLU, the Constitution only applies to LEGAL citizens. Apparently, various and sundry courts and judges see this the same way SANE people see it. A Federal judge upheld the merits of the law on February 8, 2008 (article here). On February 28, 2008, the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the lower court’s ruling (article here). Keep in mind, people, this is the 9th Circuit–the most liberal circuit out there.

How is this affecting illegals here in Arizona? It’s huge. Homes and apartments are being abandoned. People suddenly aren’t showing up for work and their children are no longer in school. Businesses catering to illegals are closing and filing for bankruptcy. Phoenix has declared it will no longer consider itself a “sanctuary” city and all bets are off for demanding proof of citizenship. ICE will be called whenever an arrest is made and the arrestee is an illegal.

There has been another effect, a rather comical effect. Mexico has issues with the return of its citizens. It doesn’t like the new law. It’s not equipped to house, educate or employ its returning citizens. It sent a delegation to Arizona to bitch. I blogged about this here and there are articles here and here.

What does all this have to do with the title of this post regarding “What If America?”

Glad you asked that, Skippy.

I listen to talk radio and a particular, locally hosted, show in the morning, “The Jon Justice Show”. Jon had an idea and that idea has become “What If America?”. Essentially, this idea asks What if those who are receiving their “stimulus” check turn around, pledge that money, and the fence gets built using that stimulus money? Would YOU be willing to use your stimulus check to make sure a private company built the mandated fence Congress is dragging it’s feet on? How much would that cost?

Jon thought about all those questions and came up with the “What If America?” site. The link to this site is here. However, I’m flat going to post the front page (I promised Jon I would).

WELCOME TO “WHAT IF AMERICA
By alee @ 11:12 AM :: 265 Views :: 24 Comments ::

WHAT IF AMERICA TOOK THE TAX REBATE STIMULUS MONEY AND USED IT TO SECURE THE U.S. MEXICO BORDER?


On Wednesday 2/20 we had a meeting with members of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (MCDC) about what could be done to secure the border of US and Mexico if only they had the proper funding? I am pleased to say that we are one step closer to presenting a transparent and comprehensive plan for What If America? Within the next few weeks we should be sending out the “What If America Border Security Plan” to everyone who has pledge some if not all of their Tax Rebate money to do what our government has failed to do….Secure our Border!


(use the comment link above to share ideas)

Email WhatIfAmerica@gmail.com

How much will you pledge to secure our US Mexico Border?

Listen to all 3 hours of the 1/28/08 Jon Justice Show about “What If America?”

Listen the 1/30/08 interview with the Minuteman Co-founder Chris Simcox
Chris Simcox explains that the MMCDC has been building a fence and can build more, it just takes the funds and the will to do it.


This started on Jan 24th 2008 while I was printing the story of President Bush and Congress agreeing on a stimulus package. Being married with 2 boys I could certainly use the $1800.00 that I will be getting this summer. But then I thought “what if”? What if enough people decided to pledge some if not all their Tax Rebate money to secure the US Mexico Border? What if we sent a message back to our government that said “Since you failed to secure our border, we will do it for you”. It would take a one time cost of roughly 3 billion dollars to put the entire fence up. Our government is going to hand the tax payers 150 Billion! A fraction of that could save us billions in Illegal Immigration costs for years to come.

Now how do we do it? Plans are currently being drafted by non-profit NON GOVERNMENT organizations on ideas of various ways we could secure our nations US MEXICO Border given the right funding. With this kind of money we have lots of options. Groups like the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps have already done tremendous work making our nation safer. We could create jobs for people to go and secure our border, put up fencing, vehicle barricades, man power etc. Why use this money to buy products from overseas, when we could create jobs and secure the country at the same time? If enough people pledged enough money what would our own government do? What would the candidates do? If the people of america took the border security in their own hands the problem could no longer be ingnored.

One major point of concern is the obvious “How do we avoid any fraud’? I believe that the only way is to create a plan for complete transparency. Setting up a single fund for the money to be placed. Then we will present a plan showing exactly what and where the money will go to those who have made the pledge. At this point the door is open for ideas.

How much would you pledge of your government tax rebate to secure the US Mexico Border? This is only a pledge to help, nothing more, nothing binding.

Email WhatIfAmerica@gmail.com

We have 6 months to spread the word and find out potentially how many people and how much money we could gather together.

It starts with the actions of very few to make a difference. This is what made our country great. The government is ready to send the people of america a 150 billion dollar blank check. What if the people of these United States used that money to TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK!?

Copy and send this link to as many people as you can: www.WhatIfAmerica.com

Spread the word!

Expanding the approved 370 miles of border fence by 1,630 miles at a cost of $2.5 billion would seal the border completely for a one-time cost. Total fencing 1969 miles. All information below are estimates based off of the 2006 US census and various other sources.

One time cost total of between 2.5 and 3 billion to build the whole fence.

1969 miles of fence at a cost of 1.5 million per mile

131 million taxpayers who will recieve money from Government this year in rebates =150 billion

Total cost for each taypayer for a one time cost to build fence = $22.00 Yes only 20 bucks!

Polls show 70% of american public what to see our border secure = 92 million want border fence

Total cost per person for the 92 million who want the fence = $32.00

ARIZONA
5.5 million AZ taxpayers

Total cost for entire U.S. fence per AZ taxpayer $571.00

Total AZ Mexico border miles= 389

Total cost per AZ tax payer to put up 389 miles of AZ mexico fence =$105.00

Total cost per year for tax payers in Arizona because of Illegal Immigrants 1.3 Billion.

It SOUNDS like a great idea–non violent, no one gets hurt, we get our fence, private sector has money going back into it, and the government stays out of it. We can enhance the progress already being made with enforcement of current laws on the books and illegas self deporting.

Go check out the site. For those truly concerned about keeping Canada, Mexico and America separate, this is a solution.

Posted at Digg! here; GOP Hub here and Real Clear Politics here.

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Illegal Immigration and "What If America?"

Those of you who are regular readers of this blog know I live in Arizona, a border state. I’m also a die-hard advocate of ending illegal immigration, building the mandated fence and enforcing existing border laws.

Too bad if that offends you. I happen to like American sovereignty. I also don’t want to hear the whining I can already hear warming up in the wings regarding “all of us were immigrants or are descended from immigrants”. Before you start the whining, understand this–I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE WHO WISH TO EMIGRATE HERE LEGALLY. MY PROBLEM IS ILLEGALS. If you are incapable of comprehending that distinction, stop reading right here and leave the blog. Mexico–and all other countries for that matter–enforce their standing immigration laws; we need to follow and enforce ours. Whiners can follow the advice given below as well.


I am not pleased with the stance of any of our presidential candidates regarding the illegal issue.
Neither Hillary nor Barack Hussein Obama want to enforce existing laws and are all for giving all kinds of taxpayer money to all illegals. It follows their stated globalist agendas.

McCain co-sponsored the McCain-Kennedy Shamnesty. At this point in time he states he heard the people loud and clear and learned his lesson; however, once bitten twice shy and I will have to see him in action on this issue in order to trust him again.

In Arizona, a new law went into affect January 1, 2008. This law–The Legal Arizona Worker’s Law, more commonly known as the Employer Sanctions Law, has already faced court challenges regarding its validity. It has proven very effective in a very short period of time.

The challenge came from–SURPRISE–the ACLU as an “unconstitutional statute” (their press release is dated February 7, 2008) For more information on the ACLU’s stance, check out their site here. Newsflash, ACLU, the Constitution only applies to LEGAL citizens. Apparently, various and sundry courts and judges see this the same way SANE people see it. A Federal judge upheld the merits of the law on February 8, 2008 (article here). On February 28, 2008, the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the lower court’s ruling (article here). Keep in mind, people, this is the 9th Circuit–the most liberal circuit out there.

How is this affecting illegals here in Arizona? It’s huge. Homes and apartments are being abandoned. People suddenly aren’t showing up for work and their children are no longer in school. Businesses catering to illegals are closing and filing for bankruptcy. Phoenix has declared it will no longer consider itself a “sanctuary” city and all bets are off for demanding proof of citizenship. ICE will be called whenever an arrest is made and the arrestee is an illegal.

There has been another effect, a rather comical effect. Mexico has issues with the return of its citizens. It doesn’t like the new law. It’s not equipped to house, educate or employ its returning citizens. It sent a delegation to Arizona to bitch. I blogged about this here and there are articles here and here.

What does all this have to do with the title of this post regarding “What If America?”

Glad you asked that, Skippy.

I listen to talk radio and a particular, locally hosted, show in the morning, “The Jon Justice Show”. Jon had an idea and that idea has become “What If America?”. Essentially, this idea asks What if those who are receiving their “stimulus” check turn around, pledge that money, and the fence gets built using that stimulus money? Would YOU be willing to use your stimulus check to make sure a private company built the mandated fence Congress is dragging it’s feet on? How much would that cost?

Jon thought about all those questions and came up with the “What If America?” site. The link to this site is here. However, I’m flat going to post the front page (I promised Jon I would).

WELCOME TO “WHAT IF AMERICA
By alee @ 11:12 AM :: 265 Views :: 24 Comments ::

WHAT IF AMERICA TOOK THE TAX REBATE STIMULUS MONEY AND USED IT TO SECURE THE U.S. MEXICO BORDER?


On Wednesday 2/20 we had a meeting with members of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (MCDC) about what could be done to secure the border of US and Mexico if only they had the proper funding? I am pleased to say that we are one step closer to presenting a transparent and comprehensive plan for What If America? Within the next few weeks we should be sending out the “What If America Border Security Plan” to everyone who has pledge some if not all of their Tax Rebate money to do what our government has failed to do….Secure our Border!


(use the comment link above to share ideas)

Email WhatIfAmerica@gmail.com

How much will you pledge to secure our US Mexico Border?

Listen to all 3 hours of the 1/28/08 Jon Justice Show about “What If America?”

Listen the 1/30/08 interview with the Minuteman Co-founder Chris Simcox
Chris Simcox explains that the MMCDC has been building a fence and can build more, it just takes the funds and the will to do it.


This started on Jan 24th 2008 while I was printing the story of President Bush and Congress agreeing on a stimulus package. Being married with 2 boys I could certainly use the $1800.00 that I will be getting this summer. But then I thought “what if”? What if enough people decided to pledge some if not all their Tax Rebate money to secure the US Mexico Border? What if we sent a message back to our government that said “Since you failed to secure our border, we will do it for you”. It would take a one time cost of roughly 3 billion dollars to put the entire fence up. Our government is going to hand the tax payers 150 Billion! A fraction of that could save us billions in Illegal Immigration costs for years to come.

Now how do we do it? Plans are currently being drafted by non-profit NON GOVERNMENT organizations on ideas of various ways we could secure our nations US MEXICO Border given the right funding. With this kind of money we have lots of options. Groups like the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps have already done tremendous work making our nation safer. We could create jobs for people to go and secure our border, put up fencing, vehicle barricades, man power etc. Why use this money to buy products from overseas, when we could create jobs and secure the country at the same time? If enough people pledged enough money what would our own government do? What would the candidates do? If the people of america took the border security in their own hands the problem could no longer be ingnored.

One major point of concern is the obvious “How do we avoid any fraud’? I believe that the only way is to create a plan for complete transparency. Setting up a single fund for the money to be placed. Then we will present a plan showing exactly what and where the money will go to those who have made the pledge. At this point the door is open for ideas.

How much would you pledge of your government tax rebate to secure the US Mexico Border? This is only a pledge to help, nothing more, nothing binding.

Email WhatIfAmerica@gmail.com

We have 6 months to spread the word and find out potentially how many people and how much money we could gather together.

It starts with the actions of very few to make a difference. This is what made our country great. The government is ready to send the people of america a 150 billion dollar blank check. What if the people of these United States used that money to TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK!?

Copy and send this link to as many people as you can: www.WhatIfAmerica.com

Spread the word!

Expanding the approved 370 miles of border fence by 1,630 miles at a cost of $2.5 billion would seal the border completely for a one-time cost. Total fencing 1969 miles. All information below are estimates based off of the 2006 US census and various other sources.

One time cost total of between 2.5 and 3 billion to build the whole fence.

1969 miles of fence at a cost of 1.5 million per mile

131 million taxpayers who will recieve money from Government this year in rebates =150 billion

Total cost for each taypayer for a one time cost to build fence = $22.00 Yes only 20 bucks!

Polls show 70% of american public what to see our border secure = 92 million want border fence

Total cost per person for the 92 million who want the fence = $32.00

ARIZONA
5.5 million AZ taxpayers

Total cost for entire U.S. fence per AZ taxpayer $571.00

Total AZ Mexico border miles= 389

Total cost per AZ tax payer to put up 389 miles of AZ mexico fence =$105.00

Total cost per year for tax payers in Arizona because of Illegal Immigrants 1.3 Billion.

It SOUNDS like a great idea–non violent, no one gets hurt, we get our fence, private sector has money going back into it, and the government stays out of it. We can enhance the progress already being made with enforcement of current laws on the books and illegas self deporting.

Go check out the site. For those truly concerned about keeping Canada, Mexico and America separate, this is a solution.

Posted at Digg! here; GOP Hub here and Real Clear Politics here.